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Word by Word Transcript & Recording of the Money Hungry Cult Leader.

We certainly understand that it can be hard to understand what Denis is saying if you haven’t been around him long enough to know his jargon or even to decipher his strange speech patterns.  It was difficult to understand what he was talking about when we were in the cult, so I know it is terribly difficult to understand his bluster if you haven’t been around him lately.

By request we have provided a transcript to the most revealing audio recording of “Pastor” Rony Denis and some commentary from his former associates.  The commentary will be in red. Hopefully this will be beneficial and give a clearer picture into the mind of Rony Denis and how he operates under the guise of a “Man of God”.



Denis: You are renting?

John: Yes sir.

John Rodriguez is a man who worked close to Rony Denis living right around the corner from Denis.  He would give Denis nightly reports of financial dealings in Denis’ real estate empire that he built on the names of his church members and ministers  in his cult. John has sinced left Denis’ cult and blew the whistle on Denis’ illegal practices and abuse.  Here is his testimony: http://www.hopcc.com/?p=88

Denis: [It’s all] garbage, including you the rent gonna have to go up.

Denis is angry because after reviewing the financial statement from all of his rentals verses paying selected workers, John worked without pay, that he is not clearing enough money.  So, he wants the rent to go up, including on John.

John: Yes sir.

Denis: By the [way] we did it, we’re just not making it at all, with the housing the this and that, that’s what’s been going on. We are paying Benton, it’s going to be really garbage.

Denis uses a lot of filler words like, “this and that”.  It sounds like he is talking in code and he is.  Benton is James or Jim Benton.  He was one of the Ntcc ministers who crossed over.  He gets paid well by Denis. He works now as one of Denis’ main builders.

John: Yes sir.

Denis: So,[with all the people we have] everybody wants cheap rent, even if it’s ugh let’s say a hundred dollars, fifty dollars twenty people that should do it and we should make it out.  I’m looking for another ten to twelve thousand bucks.

John: Yes sir.

Denis: You got that sir? You need to do that, I want a whole list.

John: Yes sir.

Denis: And the people who are renting the other places, let me get Roscoe….ugh

Denis now calls Roscoe Stanley.  Denis operates a lot on the phone through conference calls. Often you may think you are on the phone alone with him but he has someone listening in.  Roscoe was also one of Denis’ rental managers.  He is also no longer a part of Denis’ cult.  Roscoe was a church member in Ntcc Killeen, TX when Denis first met him.  He is from Jacksonville, Florida, so Denis threatens to send him home for correcting him.

Denis: You treat me like you are an equal sir!  You understand! You remember the guy who use to come to Killeen? Remember him?

Roscoe: Yes sir.

Roscoe is not the only one Denis has gotten on for treating like an “equal”. In Denis’ world everyone is beneath him.  At the beginning of the split from Ntcc he used rhetoric like there are no big I’s and little You’s here and so-on.  Denis complained that people worshipped RW Davis in a cultish way but he would complain in Hop (House of Prayer – Denis cult) that people didn’t treat him with the same respect that they showed RW Davis.  

Denis: Yes, you better not talk to me like that sir. I’ll shut you down, and you will be going down to Texas, not Texas but Jacksonville [Florida]. Do you understand sir? Don’t you ever talk to me like that sir. When I say something, that’s what you did before on base [Ft. Stewart], that’s how you got me in this trouble. You always try to be….when I say that about those guys….you said…well not really.  You don’t correct me sir, you’re gonna have to be judged for that.  But, I don’t have to say that. God is….that’s the way church members can do me, let them do it….that’s it. That’s baloney, ok. Don’t argue with me.  You run your mouth, Jeff Arnold [a Hinesville lawyer] constantly. But, having said that, when you rent places sir, we need to try to get twenty five dollars increase. Because I just reviewed the payments, by the time Benton [James(Jim) Benton] everybody’s paid every month, it’s just not there. You understand Roscoe?

Roscoe: Yes sir.

Denis’ theology is that God will judge you or punish you because you have disrespected him in someway or another. The Ft. Stewart military base took a strong stance against Denis’ cult proselyting on base so, Hop does more covert “soul winning” on the military installation.  Denis is always quick to correct you for something to keep you in your place but notice that his focus goes right back to money which is the bottom line.   

Denis: That’s the same thing we went through in the past, we went through this in the past, alright. So, Roscoe when you talk to me like that sir it’s not good.  I’m not Rev. Robertson or Rev. Bradeen.  Ok, sir? I’m not….John called me buck teeth, John is going to pay for it. The way I am is, I pick the time and the terrain when I fight my battles. Ok, you got?  Where is Retana? [George Retana] Where’s all these people?  Look [at] the pictures, Angelina….this and that…but these are people that House of Prayer created.  But, I pick the time….you understand? The way I work John is this…I don’t forgive and I don’t forget. You understand?

John: Yes sir.

George Retana is a former member of Denis’ cult  

When Denis speaks about the pictures he is referring primarily to Facebook pictures that he has spent tens of thousands of dollars to make numerous copies of Ntcc former and current members as well as former Hop members such as the one he mentioned, Angelina.  Rev. Robertson and Rev. Bradeen(former Ntcc ministers) who both stay in Hinesville constantly are berated by Denis. He elevates himself far above them and has effectively beat them down mentally to where they are a glutton for his punishment.   Most importantly notice Denis’ comments, “I don’t forgive and I don’t forget.” This says it all.  This man does not operate in the Spirit of God at all. 

Denis: I forgive, but I will…I will….I will come back at you, not in a vengeance way, but I will come back at you. You know me to me like that, right John?

John: I’m sorry, say that last part.

Denis: You know me to be like that, ok. I might be laughing this, this, this, but I don’t forget what people do.

John: Yes sir.

Denis: Ok, you marked!

John: Yes sir.

Denis tries to somewhat cover his tracks saying that he forgives but he then quickly reveals himself by saying he will come back at you foolishly saying, but not in a vengeful way. 

Denis: You could say yes sir all you want, but you called me buck teeth. And Roscoe you can’t treat me like that sir. Even Denise, wrote a big letter have Oloans let you read it, Oloans has that letter how she apologised and said she was wrong, you understand? I like that. I’ll let you read it. Maybe I’ll let you come in tonight Roscoe or later on this evening or later on tonight, I’ll let you read it. Ok, sir?

Roscoe: Yes, sir.

Denise was Roscoe’s wife at the time.  Denis put her out of the church because she wouldn’t tell Denis of all her past life.  Anthony (Tony) Oloans is another minister who came over from Ntcc.  He is as dirty as they come.  He no doubt was the one pretending to be a woman on the phone with the mortgage company that Rev. Fred Irwin testified about concerning Denis’ corruption early on in the Hop cult movement.  http://www.hopcc.com/?p=508

Denis: And [you] will find out how Denise was pleading for mercy and for this and…you just can’t do that. No matter what happens God has to honor His word.  You understand? So, Roscoe twenty-five dollars extra to fifty dollars if you can each property if you can get it.  And no more us paying water bill.  Just as new places come open. So, now the people who just moved in, ugh John from different places, you don’t ask them for more they already moved in, they haven’t been there a year yet.

John: Yes sir.

This back and forth is normal for Denis. He jumps all over the place, but rest assure he’s coming back to the money. He was proud of what he called himself, a “cash cow” for Ntcc.  This is why they liked him over there even though they knew he was corrupt. 

Denis: Normal, when  you been at a place a year you get an increase right?

John: Yes sir.

Denis: Ok, because we have so many freebies, and some were added by garbage.  And I know when I say garbage I want to keep it in…[mumbled]….for all this stuff is garbage and when I know when I say garbage I know what it means. Somewhere by garbage with the people this, this, this.  So, I’m gonna try and make it out.  We had to modify, it was already a bad situation.  Gave a hundred thousand dollars to Pappa Reip, I’m gonna just stop, stop buying people, I promise you,….. stop buying people. [Look at] sister Bradeen, she has nothing to say, you understand, she has nothing to say to me.  And that’s the way that I work.  She side with her man, the way women are when sex is good they don’t call when sex is no good they call. [Do] you understand?  That’s the way they work.  You guys got it?……

John: Yes sir.

Freebies are the people that he was manipulating by his “love-bombing” tactics by allowing them to have free rent for a while.  But, Denis begins to reveal language that sounds strange. He says, “added by garbage” and that he knows what he means by saying garbage.  Well, we know as well.  Denis was and is involved in spiritism. This “garbage” is what he has said before was the 2’9 spirit which comes from Deut. 29:29- The things that are revealed belong to us but the secret things belong to the Lord.  Well, Denis wanted to know the “secret things.”  He delved into Jewish mysticism and numerology and presto he claims that he “knows the secrets of the universe.” Well, not exactly what has happened is that he tapped into being in a demonic trance where some testified that he was a lot nicer being influenced by demons than just being himself.  He gave thousands away. A hundred thousand to Pappa Reip and Anthony Oloans.  Thousands to Jim Benton and others.  That’s also how these “freebies” came about.  He snapped out of his trance and was at this time on a warpath to recoup the money that the spirits helped to give away.  Strange but true.   Notice that he has admitted to buying people. He then strangely attacks Sis. Bradeen, did he give her a lot of money also to buy her from her husband?

Denis: That’s the way they work. So, Roscoe don’t do that to me sir ok, this, this, this, this, this, you can’t do that. And so, you guys…..Roscoe this, this, this, all you know and John this, this, this buck teeth.  I’m not Rev. Bradeen, I’m not Rev. Robertson.  You guys can take pop shots at me.  That’s what you just did Roscoe, you got so over familiar. Over familiar…ok you can make my mouth dry that’s fine.  Roscoe’s not going to make it if he doesn’t change…change my voice…change my. It’s not going to work.  A bunch of garbage. You understand? Buck teeth, buck teeth John I will never forgive you for this?

John: Yes sir.

Why does Denis bring up “buck teeth”? John was accused of calling Denis buck teeth because a church member told one of the ministers whom Denis sent on a witch hunt mission to see if anyone one had said anything amiss of Denis anytime that they have been in Hop.  Sounds crazy but true.  John didn’t even call Denis buck teeth.  The statement was completely taken out of context that John had made concerning Denis but it was too late now.

Denis: The prayers that I pray, do you want me to pray it John?

John: No sir.

Denis: I’ll tell God to make your choice.  That’s what I pray over bread this, this…  Cause when people irritate me too much then ok, that’s the way they gonna do, you [God] make a choice,  you [God] choose them them over me?  You choose [God] whoever you want.  If they more..If Bradeen is more valuable then you choose….ok. So, that’s no good.  You got it Roscoe? So, you took a pop shot at me today.  Right now you’re changing your voice, why you’re changing your voice, tell me?……ugh?

Denis’ prayer to God Almighty is for God to make His choice!  Denis is a Class A Narcissist!  Notice how Denis weirdly talks about someone changing their voice.  Who do you think he is talking to? Roscoe and John knows that  it is not them.  They don’t even answer him concerning this question. He talks about someone making his mouth dry and his voice being changed, what is he talking about?  This is the demon plaguing Denis! This is what happens to him, his mouth gets dry and his voice changes.  He would at times say that God was speaking through him, and that it was God speaking to the people. Later he would confess to certain ones that it was not God making his voice dry but it was the “2’9” People (Spirits he claims he hears talking to him all the time he use to think was God). Now he is in a love hate relationship with them. Sometimes he reverts back to saying they are God, then goes back to saying it was just the spirits. 

Roscoe: I didn’t realize that I was taking a pop shot at you.

Denis: Say what?

Roscoe: I didn’t realize I was taking a pop shot at you. I didn’t realize….

Denis: Yeah, you fighting me, you fought me before Roscoe, didn’t you?  Ugh?……You didn’t feel bad Roscoe when you got off the phone that you were arguing with me?

Roscoe: Yes sir, I did.

Denis: Guess what sir, if I cut you off and don’t talk to you that’s it.  That’s the deal with Rev. Robertson.  And then this is where the garbage, the this and that, and the houses and all this nonsense. [And,] there is so many places..and I’m not going to have meeting with you guys and John…I can’t even stand John right now.  You understand?

John: Yes, sir.

Denis: And when I am talking to you like that John, the Bible says, obey them that have the rule over you because they watch what?

John: For your soul.

A classic religious cult control technique is employed by Denis to control John and Roscoe but Denis was the one actually being fooled unbeknownst to him.

Denis: Ok,…you think because things are going on this, that but anyway John…you have to get the insurance lowered. And this.

John: Yes, sir.

The insurance on the houses were high because Denis would file multiple claims for hail damage and so on. He would pocket the money and send his crew to so called do the work to “fix” the roofs.

Denis: That’s why this thing is reckless. Reckless, reckless, reckless, reckless, reckless, reckless, reckless, reckless, reckless. Ok….I’ll let you guys go…..I’ll let you go…I’ll let you guys go….I’ll let you go…

John: Yes, sir.

Denis: Ok, I’ll let you guys go……. So, John you know what to do.

John: Yes, sir.

Denis: Not the new people that moved in but the old people and everyone else that has been there, that been there a year or two, maybe you can get there and analyze it and get an increase of  fifty dollars.  You understand?

John: Yes, sir.

Denis: People don’t mind if you ask for fifty bucks.  Let me see Roscoe, oh he hung. Roscoe……Ok, a hundred, people don’t mind if you’re asking for another fifty bucks, people that have been there a year or two if you ask them for a raise something like fifty bucks…ok Roscoe?

Roscoe: Yes, sir.

Denis: Alright, so I have to work with you guys…it’s sad….just like Jesus working with Judas.  A lot of you guys are of bunch of Judas’…you can tell right?

Another cult tactic by Denis, he is the real Judas.

Roscoe: Yes, sir.

Denis: Alright, I’ll let you guys go.


17 thoughts on “Word by Word Transcript & Recording of the Money Hungry Cult Leader.

  1. This man is so sensitive that he tells someone that he will NEVER FORGIVE them because they called him buck teeth? Are you serious?

  2. It’s good to know that some of the Hop church members have reached out and we are glad to know that they have been viewing the site. Thanks for your support! The Truth will set you free!

    Bro. Yorke

  3. Denis wants obedience (worship) loves people bowing down to his every whim. He has a deep hatred and bitterness deep within. He is consumed with money, power, lust! He lashes out at all……according to his words he is the only man of God on the face of the earth, and that all other churches outside of House of prayer, House of help, are on their way to hell,….because they are not living up to Denis standards, Denis version of the scriptures. He changes the meaning depending on what he wants at the time. This man is sick consumed from within.

  4. That’s extremely true. I often ask myself if he was ever a real preacher, ever sincere. .. how could he have been if from the beginning he was full of greed!!! According to what I’ve read he was!

  5. Denis says look at the pictures insinuating that the people in the pictures are wicked which he judges by his standards but not the Bible, yet the Bible does speak of his don’t forgive and don’t forget spirit he has. What a hypocrite!

  6. This man is going to Hell. He really thinks he can get away with it. Nice job on catching him word for word. I attended back in 2010 but had enough with the control from the so-called Man of God. Out of the heart, the mouth speaks. I had a red flag when the “brotherly” fellowship frowned upon me when I said my mother was saved, but they didn’t believe it, and when I said all my life I looked up to the saying What Would Jesus Do on every choice and occasion; the brothers just frowned upon it because they thought I couldn’t have done that, I wasn’t in their church yet.

    1. Don’t get me wrong, I believe some people are saved by Jesus that are still in but Dennis has blasphemed the Holy Spirit. The pastor I had in San Diego was Pastor Figueroa and I learned a lot from him. Though my heart told me that his superiors were controlling him and the rest of the church. So glad to hear he is out now, but God told me I saved you then (before House of Prayer) and I will save you now (after House of Prayer), so I cut ties with the synagogue.

  7. Wow! That makes more sense now! He is more messed up than ever! This man reminds me of king Saul, the man who rejected God. God told Samuel to get up and move on I have rejected Saul. Is there any hope for for such a man as this?

    1. This is true. but I believe denis is more vile than Saul because the bible says that Saul was right with God at one point. I believe this guy has been faking the whole time. It’s truly amazing but if you look at some of the things he’s done and to get right up in the pulpit and preach after that. He was never saved!

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